Most of the people I follow on YT & social media - with similar views to me about the Russo-Ukraine war, more sympathetic to the Russian side - are now equally (more!) rabid about the poor oppressed Palestinians (who have taken every opportunity since 1948 to do whatever they can to destroy Israel, and have likewise ignored every opportunity to negotiate, improve their own lives, and live in peace).
What horrifies me is the attempt to justify this atrocity: eg "Can we really call it terrorism when people are trying to fight for their homes?"
-there is no understanding that cold-blooded face to face murder of civilians, including of children, is quite different from the collateral killing of civilians in a bombing attack - even though the mass murder of war is also something we should not condone or celebrate (IMO).
We are in a world where being able to claim the biggest degree of victimhood is itself power - and the Palestinians are doing best in this regard.
This weekend, there are pro-Palestinian rallies scheduled all over Australia. This has become even more inflammatory than any of the other issues of the past few years - and likely to only get worse.
While the official position of the Aussie government is to support Israel (because the US tells us who we have to support) it is almost amusing to see the mental contortions performed by the government, trying to reconcile their usual leftie policies with the official position of supporting Israel.
Israel is now in a no-win situation, because the media will keep pushing this one-sided view that the Palestinians are the good guys and being treated unfairly.
Not only the Holocaust, but also the fear of nuclear war seems to have been forgotten by this new generation. The US is strengthening its military presence - which may or may not help Israel, but all I can say is, Heaven help Israel if they are having to rely on Joe Biden for their continuing survival. (The US will continue to support Israel, as their outpost in the Middle East - but the interests of the US and Israel are not always aligned.)
Thank you Mara for your very insightful commentary. The median age of Australians today is 38 years. This means the average Australian––unless they bothered to study history, which most don't––are ignorant of what has transpired. There is no stolen land because it was not actually Palestinian land to begin with.
Even so, at partition, the Israelis accepted a very small piece of land, which at its narrowest was a mere 7 miles across, hardly a secure situation. In the 48 war which they won, they accepted a ceasefire, with little more land than the partition. In the 67 war, they were pressured by the U.S. to stop which they did. In the 73 war, Nixon put heavy pressure on Israel to stop again, when they had the Egyptian army on the ropes.
So the spoils of war were the occupied lands that Israel only acquired because of aggression by the Arab states. I don't know how old you are Mara, but prior to the 67 war, you never heard anyone mention the "Palestinians". They didn't exist. It was a made up name. I am as much a Palestinian as an Arab/Muslim because I was born in the British Mandate of Palestine.
The brain washing is quite scary. As you say, it will only get worse. America is so weak now that it is scary. Sad to say, unless Israel goes hard and crushing, and yes, unfortunately, the hostages will probably mostly die. The alternative will be that Hamas will drag out the release by a slow process and so reconstitute itself while Israel twists itself in a knot not to kill civilians. In that case Hamas continues to stay as a genocidal force on Israel's border. Wars have never been fought, or won that way. Somehow Israel is put to a standard not applicable to any other country.
The Arabs can afford to lose war after war. If Israel loses one––they are gone.
Some of the anti-semitism we are seeing today, at least among the alternative groups I hang out with, has to do with the concept of (Jewish) evil bankers, in particular the Rothschild family, who do seem to have large control over the banking cabal who rule the world, and are trying to bring in the NWO. Some are now specifying these people as the "Khazarian mafia", and distinguishing them from "real" Jews - which doesn't really help to stop the blame game, as it includes the Ashkenazi Jews and many other ordinary people. And it is true, there were (and are) globalist interests behind the Zionist movement and the creation of the state of Israel.
But it all comes down to the blame game, the need to "other" an identifiable group of people who are supposedly responsible for whatever current troubles we are experiencing.
It's ironic that the very people who are protesting that it is unfair to punish the entire Gaza population for the evils of Hamas can't see that the opposite also applies: what does it accomplish to brutally murder Israeli civilians - and demonise those who support and mourn them - because of the actions of the Israeli government?
Yes, there are globalist forces behind the current Israeli government (as with our own country, Australia, and with most other Western countries too). But there are also the Israeli civilians who want peace for themselves and their communities, and are inadvertently caught up in the political power plays.
The rest is continued RAPE OF THE MIND to create more confusion for those folks watching YT and FACISTBOOK and X etc etc.
Even many so called alternative sites we don't know what is true.
Many of us have been down the Rabbit Hole starting with Albert Pike I think his name was 100 + years ago.
Now we hear information that there was an event 201 type scenario by Isreal and TPTB weeks before the doors were opened by the MOST SECURE Border in the world.
ON PURPOSE.
I'm looking for more info on the practice run by Isreal since there are so few truth tellers with vetted info.
These REPTILES running our planet want a big war and many are cheering them on.
Most of the people I follow on YT & social media - with similar views to me about the Russo-Ukraine war, more sympathetic to the Russian side - are now equally (more!) rabid about the poor oppressed Palestinians (who have taken every opportunity since 1948 to do whatever they can to destroy Israel, and have likewise ignored every opportunity to negotiate, improve their own lives, and live in peace).
What horrifies me is the attempt to justify this atrocity: eg "Can we really call it terrorism when people are trying to fight for their homes?"
-there is no understanding that cold-blooded face to face murder of civilians, including of children, is quite different from the collateral killing of civilians in a bombing attack - even though the mass murder of war is also something we should not condone or celebrate (IMO).
We are in a world where being able to claim the biggest degree of victimhood is itself power - and the Palestinians are doing best in this regard.
This weekend, there are pro-Palestinian rallies scheduled all over Australia. This has become even more inflammatory than any of the other issues of the past few years - and likely to only get worse.
While the official position of the Aussie government is to support Israel (because the US tells us who we have to support) it is almost amusing to see the mental contortions performed by the government, trying to reconcile their usual leftie policies with the official position of supporting Israel.
Israel is now in a no-win situation, because the media will keep pushing this one-sided view that the Palestinians are the good guys and being treated unfairly.
Not only the Holocaust, but also the fear of nuclear war seems to have been forgotten by this new generation. The US is strengthening its military presence - which may or may not help Israel, but all I can say is, Heaven help Israel if they are having to rely on Joe Biden for their continuing survival. (The US will continue to support Israel, as their outpost in the Middle East - but the interests of the US and Israel are not always aligned.)
Thank you Mara for your very insightful commentary. The median age of Australians today is 38 years. This means the average Australian––unless they bothered to study history, which most don't––are ignorant of what has transpired. There is no stolen land because it was not actually Palestinian land to begin with.
Even so, at partition, the Israelis accepted a very small piece of land, which at its narrowest was a mere 7 miles across, hardly a secure situation. In the 48 war which they won, they accepted a ceasefire, with little more land than the partition. In the 67 war, they were pressured by the U.S. to stop which they did. In the 73 war, Nixon put heavy pressure on Israel to stop again, when they had the Egyptian army on the ropes.
So the spoils of war were the occupied lands that Israel only acquired because of aggression by the Arab states. I don't know how old you are Mara, but prior to the 67 war, you never heard anyone mention the "Palestinians". They didn't exist. It was a made up name. I am as much a Palestinian as an Arab/Muslim because I was born in the British Mandate of Palestine.
The brain washing is quite scary. As you say, it will only get worse. America is so weak now that it is scary. Sad to say, unless Israel goes hard and crushing, and yes, unfortunately, the hostages will probably mostly die. The alternative will be that Hamas will drag out the release by a slow process and so reconstitute itself while Israel twists itself in a knot not to kill civilians. In that case Hamas continues to stay as a genocidal force on Israel's border. Wars have never been fought, or won that way. Somehow Israel is put to a standard not applicable to any other country.
The Arabs can afford to lose war after war. If Israel loses one––they are gone.
Some of the anti-semitism we are seeing today, at least among the alternative groups I hang out with, has to do with the concept of (Jewish) evil bankers, in particular the Rothschild family, who do seem to have large control over the banking cabal who rule the world, and are trying to bring in the NWO. Some are now specifying these people as the "Khazarian mafia", and distinguishing them from "real" Jews - which doesn't really help to stop the blame game, as it includes the Ashkenazi Jews and many other ordinary people. And it is true, there were (and are) globalist interests behind the Zionist movement and the creation of the state of Israel.
But it all comes down to the blame game, the need to "other" an identifiable group of people who are supposedly responsible for whatever current troubles we are experiencing.
It's ironic that the very people who are protesting that it is unfair to punish the entire Gaza population for the evils of Hamas can't see that the opposite also applies: what does it accomplish to brutally murder Israeli civilians - and demonise those who support and mourn them - because of the actions of the Israeli government?
Yes, there are globalist forces behind the current Israeli government (as with our own country, Australia, and with most other Western countries too). But there are also the Israeli civilians who want peace for themselves and their communities, and are inadvertently caught up in the political power plays.
Both sides are run by TPTB.
Isreal created Hamas.
The rest is continued RAPE OF THE MIND to create more confusion for those folks watching YT and FACISTBOOK and X etc etc.
Even many so called alternative sites we don't know what is true.
Many of us have been down the Rabbit Hole starting with Albert Pike I think his name was 100 + years ago.
Now we hear information that there was an event 201 type scenario by Isreal and TPTB weeks before the doors were opened by the MOST SECURE Border in the world.
ON PURPOSE.
I'm looking for more info on the practice run by Isreal since there are so few truth tellers with vetted info.
These REPTILES running our planet want a big war and many are cheering them on.