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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Ely, I guess that it has occurred to you that if the earlier baby had been born, then you probably would not have been.

My guess is that for a lot of women the decision has to be made really fast, when emotions are high, and therefore the mother will trust her usual trusted friends.

The time between finding out about the pregnancy and end of first trimester might be too tiny for proper considering.

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IPA's avatar

It's interesting that you bring up the fact that the most recent US Supreme Court nominee could not readily define the difference between male and female. I think her position was more legal than practical. I see her as believing that a judge's role is to remain neutral, hear legal arguments from both sides, and finally come to a decision based on existing case law. I'm sure in a few individual cases the difference is not entirely clear. I've only encountered women with large clits twice. I think both were actually women.

In Tahiti there are a lot of "mahu" bars at the end of the water front. They are poorly lit. I went in and asked some "woman" to dance. To this day, I don't know if "she" was actually a "he," but I suspect the latter. I've never been attracted to males and really enjoy sex with a female who is able to get really turned on.

Unfortunately the feminist movement has resulted in a loss of feminism with many females who have become overly self-centered and domineering. I'm nearly 80 and hot women aren't breaking down the doors looking for 80 year old men. Nevertheless, it's difficult to even find someone that I would enjoy going with to a concert or a play. These days is seems many women are content to do things with other women, and really don't have any interest in male companionship.

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I'm sorry for your loss. My first son was born 4 years before my 2nd son who was a bonus baby. After the 2nd son was born, and there were some pictures of him on the wall next to the kitchen table, my 1st son carved up the pictures with a sharp knife. Obviously his feelings were different from yours. It may be inappropriate to ask, but are you Palestinian, Jewish or some other ethnicity? I'm just curious as I do consider you to be a "white hat."

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Thank You Ely. It helps to complete the human picture of how such hard choices have to be lived out. A big wound that can and usually does heal but leaves a scar. I have recently realised that if I had been my mom, who miscarried about 3 pregnancies and lost a child to stillbirth before she had me (i had 2 brothers and a oldest sister, they were about 10,11 and 12 years older resp.), if I had been her, I would have aborted me out of simple fatigue. My parents were not of that belief, though, and wanted just one more kid. The child that was stillborn would have been my nearest brother, but if he had lived, I probably would not have been born, as i think 4 kids was a silent goal for them or such. The biggest funny thing about it all is that I was a complete tom boy who grew up to be a lesbo leaning bisexual. I can't but help think it is partially because my family was really hoping for a boy, that lost child, so I became that best I could, as a girl. I was just trying to fix their sadness, on some level, but in becoming that, I offended or disappoined them in some way. Life is hard. best from ORegon.

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IPA's avatar

My wife had one pregnancy that ended in a spontaneous abortion. It was devastating for her. I heard about 1 in 3 pregnancies ends in spontaneous abortion. Many are unknown to the mother.

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