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Jim Davidson's avatar

I know of a company that has conducted elections for 42 years, mostly for labour unions mostly within a hundred miles of New York City. Every union election has been certified by the USA department of labour. You might be interested to learn that the rank and file of unions are deeply interested in the conduct of elections in their union and are insistent on valid identification documents. It may be possible to have election integrity, but does the deep state care?

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Ely's avatar

Nope. They can now manipulate through social media and Google search algorithms.

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Jim Davidson's avatar

Perhaps. I believe in one all powerful, just, and merciful God. The deep state is badly flawed and evil.

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Claire Davenport's avatar

A fantastic piece Ely. This is so embarrassing for the propergander pushers , how they must cringe watching that ' we will be your single source of truth " clip. How the cards are falling!

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Ely's avatar

We obviously haven't embarrassed them enough.

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Major Mike Webb's avatar

Misinformation is a two way street. At least up to the early 1990s, the difference on the battlefield between U.S. forces and Soviet Bloc forces was that they only followed orders, while we had attempted to develop small unit leadership, so you would not only have to take out the command and control element. Most should have been taught that viruses are the most abundant biological particles in the world, and with the evolutionary pressure of a pandemic, it might have been a good idea to determine how many had been harmful to mankind: 219 before a novel coronavirus.

Had NIOSH asked me to fund a challenge study on nonmedical grade substitutes for PPE using the same diagnostic equipment we use to rate the N95 a decade ago, I would have opposed it, but by August 2020, the CDC had retained a cartoonist to assist those who couldn't locate the entrances to their upper respiratory tract.

If you are relying upon directions from the tower, you assume the risk associated with your loss of independent thought.

In a 40-page report on the outbreak in China published on February 24, 2020, it said in plain English, "it is not clear whether this correlates with the presence of an infectious disease, and for those who could not understand a finding of a less than five percent secondary attack rate and a disease presenting in discrete, clustered outbreaks, with no wider community spread, finding highest incidence of infections against farming families, the political opposition in the largest city in the central mainland, the lead author said it again in an interview on March 2, 2020, and he said he was certain nobody bothered to read his report. https://youtu.be/mkI-8_7fONY

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Ely's avatar

Well I studied virology in university in the 1960s. It seems we haven't learned much since then.

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Major Mike Webb's avatar

At least our politicians and pharmaceutical companies learned how to use them to create pandemics. On the 28th, in litigation on its third attempt to just get an answer to a FOIA request from the White House, submitted on March 23, 2021, when we only had 527,000 American fatalities, the White House will be in court to defend explaining why basic metrics for Covid-19 remain officially unknown, as if it was classified information, which it could only be if the government owned the novel virus and if it was cultivated in a laboratory. Since the President tasked the Intelligence Community to redouble efforts to determine the origins two months after getting and refusing to answer the FOIA request, this should be an interesting defense argument.

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Ely's avatar

Yet despite all the FOIA such as the release of the details of Pfizer's clinical trials, nothing happens. This was a disastrous product from the beginning and should have been stopped before it got out of the gate. However, all the nefarious forces pushed it out on the masses, and even, despite all we know, the operating manual is the same. I blame many in the medical community for not rising up and demanding "STOP we will not comply".

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Baldmichael's avatar

Well said.

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Luke Warmwater's avatar

Do you mean democracy literally or are you using the abstraction as it has been marketed by the elites? I want no part of a democracy, for reasons obvious to history. The US is a republic. We don’t vote directly for laws. Corruption comes much more slowly than democracy, but alas it is upon us in spades. If we are to be taken seriously, we need to pay attention and realize when we are using terminology that has been planted as an abstraction by the political industrial complex and avoid being complicit in perpetuating their distortions.

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Ely's avatar

Word have meaning Luke. I've heard Americans go on about "we are not a democracy, we're a Republic. Democracies are systems of governments where the power resides in people or by their representatives through free elections. It goes back to the Greeks.

America is a Constitutional Republic where you vote for your House, Senate and President. Australia is a Constitutional Parliamentary system where we vote for our House and Senate.

Words have meaning. To say that America is not a democracy is to say that the people don't have a government that represents them. Now I know that the governments are corrupt and often don't fulfill the peoples' wishes, but that's another story.

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Luke Warmwater's avatar

Ely, I have been subscribed for quite some time and respect your take on things, but I think I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Semantics. The Greek form of government is a case study on how direct democracy (the actual system of governance) is susceptible to corruption and mob rule. Once the populace realizes they can vote for entitlements and politicians realize they can live off the fruits of corruption, the entire thing implodes. I get the feeling this definition is not what you are describing. However, this is the actual description, that is, a system of governance where the people are directly involved in the affairs of the state. And the only reason I have a problem with your description is it seems to be exactly what I was eluding to. The concept of Democracy is no longer synonymous with the definition as you'd find it in the dictionary, but instead it's being sold as some sort of "we are all together and represented" concept. This is the marketing version of the word. Unfortunately, the word Republic doesn't roll off the tongue as smoothly as Democracy. Over the last few decades, I've seen the word Democracy used by all sorts of talking heads and heads of state, and if you pay attention, it's always used to punctuate their pandering by identifying a rallying cry we can all get behind. It's not the actual definition of democracy, not classically. It's a marketing term that can be used in any situation where a politician needs to bring home a point. It's a sales closer. Trudeau uses it constantly, while telling the public that he's actually doing what would be just the opposite. "I'm going to crack down on dissent and peaceful protest, because... Democracy (The we're all in this together definition)." Biden does the same, when he's coherent. Just about every governor, senator and representative here in the US uses the term like magic sauce to punctuate every authoritarian, big government idea they're selling. It's ALL for Democracy. Literally any terrible, authoritarian, censorship, propaganda or tyrannical idea proudly espoused by politicians is punctuated with the rally cry of "...because Democracy" in order to fool the pubic. If this, all-purpose version of the word is what we are supposed to be rallying behind, then I object. I object on the grounds that it is now a term that has no real meaning at all. It means everything. It means nothing. In actuality, it means something very specific, as in the classic Greek form of governance, but as a marketing term it means anything that sounds like something we should be getting behind. It's a trap. Use the word Liberty, which actually means something still.

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Ely's avatar

Luke, words have meaning. So if democracy means something else to you, well I guess it's just differing opinions. At it's most basic level, you have free elections in America to elect your representatives, correct? We similarly, have free elections to vote for our representatives. Are elections rigged? Yes, there is some rigging but the process is the freedom to vote. Now when it comes to the American Constitution vs the Australian one, there are differences. So if you want don't want to call America a democracy, then so be it.

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Luke Warmwater's avatar

I'm in agreement with you that we vote freely. And that there are democracies and republics. I think I must have digressed so far the point was lost. The point I was trying, however unsuccessfully, to make is - there is a word that is used by tyrants and sociopaths to sell their product. This word is also used by good people in the same way, to sell their product. I don't believe the good people see that by using the word they are choosing the language of the tyrants and expecting people to understand its meaning as something altruistic. I think it is a bad idea to use the terminology of tyrants. It's especially bad to use it in similar context expecting that a nicer version is what should be inferred. If Biden says we're mandating experimental vaccines for this word, and Trudeau says we're restricting people's access to their banks for this word, then you and I should not say we are fighting the good fight for this word. We're perpetuating the use of the enemy's terminology. Trudeau and Biden have no intention of allowing a free vote on anything.

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Ely's avatar

When I refer to free elections I should use "free", because as we know, there is so much manipulation online through entities like google, changing the Search algorithms so when people are browsing, it influences their vote. Dr Robert Epstein has been onto this and is of the opinion, Google has shifted 20% of the vote to the Democrats. Since the young are so wedded to technology, it's easy to see.

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Luke Warmwater's avatar

I like the word Liberty and I believe it more accurately depicts what people are trying to convey with Democracy. Another term that you hear all too infrequently from the elites today is Prosperity. These vital concepts have been phased out in favor of Safety and Security.

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