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Baldmichael's avatar

I see Wikipedia has a downer on chiropractics. I suppose if one is not poisoning people for profit the medical industry isn't interested.

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Ely's avatar

I wonder how many patients Wikipedia has seen in the last 50 years? I think I’m around 15,000 new patients and 350,000 patient visits. I guess they’re the real experts.

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devoalan's avatar

I can't wait to see where this goes.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

I don’t believe that allopathic medicine is the diagnosis and treatment of disease. I believe it’s the management and treatment of symptoms of disease with pharmaceutical interventions

Finding the cause of disease is not something allopathic drs do. They treat symptoms of Parkinson’s but don’t even bother looking for the cause. Same with cancer and arthritis and high blood pressure. They only treat symptoms of disease.

This is why it’s been so easy for drs and the health authorities to hide all the vaccine injuries. Because they don’t concern themselves with cause. They will give you something to treat the symptoms of vaccine injury but won’t do anything to confirm it was the vaccine that caused it. And they’ve been doing it for decades.

In NZ it’s health policy that vaccines stay in the arm and don’t get distributed round the body. This means drs cannot diagnose vaccine injuries unless the injury is just redness and swelling at the injection site. If they tried to claim the patient had a neurotoxic reaction to an aluminium adjuvant they would be punished by the medical council because vaccines stay in the arm and don’t get distributed round the body.

So nothing I’ve seen over the last 3 years has surprised me at all. It’s just how the system of allopathic medicine works.

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Ely's avatar

Mark, I'm going to ask you something, and I ask this with respect. Have you had any medical-type education? If you not, let me just explain what doctors are taught.

In my chiropractic training which was 4 years post-graduate after my university degree. We studied the identical subjects taught to medical students, except that we just got a rudimentary course in pharmacology. As chiropractors don't dispense drugs, our focus was on the study of the spine, and developing skills in corrective adjustments.

The medical courses we did were Diagnosis, Pathology, Physiology, Histology, X-rays, Anatomy, etc., etc.

In diagnosis you are taught how to differentiate the signs and symptoms of illnesses. In pathology you are taught all the manifestations of disease, both the signs and symptoms and the causative factors of that disease entity. Yes, medicine manages disease by treating with drugs or surgery, that is their methodology but their diagnosis is for the purpose of identifying what condition they are purporting to treat.

Now saying all that, medicine gets it wrong a lot, because they use mostly inductive reasoning––looking at a small part of a problem ––assuming it's the whole problem. So when there's a child with an ear infection, they run to give antibiotics in many cases to kill the bug, rather than dealing with the overall health of the child and enhancing immunity.

I'm actually married to a medical doctor and I can tell you she tries to diagnose an ailment not just treat a symptom. Case in point; a patient comes in with swollen lymph glands in the throat. So a doctor may just treat that symptom to try and relieve the symptom. However, true doctoring is identifying what's causing it. So sometimes the causative factor may be Systemic Lupus, or in another case it may actually be cancer that has metastasize. To identify that, you have to do blood tests, scans, etc.

We have been in practice over 50 years, the philosophy is the same, but the technology has changed. There is good medical practice and bad. Mass vaccinating humanity and using coercion is not only bad, but it's diabolical.

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Nicholas Wind's avatar

Great answer Ely.

My Chiropractor thinks exactly like you and is 25 years younger than you

He is a blessing that has come out of this BULL SHIT from the last few years.

He's also a FREEDOM fighter with us

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Ely's avatar

Great, glad you found someone who knows the score.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

I stand by my years of experience in the health system. Allopathic drs do not diagnose the cause of disease. They diagnose lists of symptoms which they’ve given a name too.

There is a big difference

For example, diagnosing someone with cancer is not diagnosing cause

Diagnosing Parkinson’s is not diagnosing cause

Diagnosing Alzheimer’s is not diagnosing cause

Diagnosing heart failure is not diagnosing cause

Diagnosing diabetes is not diagnosing cause

Diagnosing arthritis or endometriosis or mental illness is not diagnosing cause

See what I mean

They just diagnose symptoms that they’ve named but do not diagnose the cause of disease

So as you claim that allopathic drs do diagnose cause can you give me any examples

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Ely's avatar

How far back do you want to go? Apriori? First cause? The birth of planet earth. I think we're getting bogged down on semantics. There is no one cause of disease. For example, a virus bacterium or chemical may be a causative agent in a disease process. However, whether one gets the disease is dependent on so many factors. Robustness of the immune system, emotional wellbeing, weight, and a whole list of things we have yet to discover.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

The simple fact Ely is that allopathic drs don’t diagnose the cause of disease as you thought they did

Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s as examples are very easy to cure. But because allopathic drs don’t diagnose disease they don’t cure their patients Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s or Crohn’s or anything else. They only treat symptoms of disease with pharmaceutical interventions

If a patient wants to know the cause and how to cure it they need to stay away from allopathic drs as they can’t help

If you were diagnosed with Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s would you not want to know the cause or how to cure it?

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

And no I don’t have allopathic medicine training. But I do have extensive training in human health

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

Diagnosing lupus or Crohn’s disease is also not diagnosing cause. It’s just telling someone they’ve got a list of symptoms called Crohn’s and lupus.

But the cause of Crohn’s and lupus may very well be nickel hypersensitivity. Many allergic to their orthopaedic implants get diagnosed with lupus too

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Noren O Drisc's avatar

I know that some hip replacements, for example, have caused health problems in patients depending on what the artificial hip is made of. The allopathic medical system was put in place by Rockefeller to sell this Petroleum based new products while he aggressively got rid of all alternative health practices & the practitioners using methods such as hounding them for years in the courts, killing them (many every year still found dead in mysterious circumstances) etc. Most allopathic drugs have negative 'side effects' which patients are not told about but can sometimes read on the paper insert inside their drug pack. We have been trained (mind controlled) to accept that some people will die due to Big P Harma medicine eg 'vaccines' (before Covid ones) are accepted as killing 'a few' people a year.. Which is clearly murder and often is thousands or millions of casualties which the Pharma companies knew about but hid in fraudulent trials results .

Cancer has many cures but anyone trying to open a clinic in the USA which cures cancer will be sued, shut down & maybe killed by Big P Harma. I read about wonderful people over the years who were curing cancer with, for example, sound frequencies - Mr Royal Rife whose research was destroyed and stolen and I know he died or was found dead with his research stolen... Depopulation is the agenda of many of the worlds richest cartels including Rockefeller, Rothschilds, Royals, & more who are keen Eugenicists & regularly plan how to get rid of most people on earth apart from the 'superior' genetic types ie rich, royal, white etc. Not conspiracy they say it and write it. Even when Pfizer or other Pharma corporation kills millions iit just gets a fine and is allowed to carry on selling and killing. Healthy people do not make money for Pharma, doctors etc so this corrupt system keeps people ill by treating the symptoms not the cause. You probably know that the Covid 'vaccines' are often lethal and Global Genocide is taking place by Fauci, Gates, WEF etc.

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Ely's avatar

While many drugs are ill-advised, some have kept people alive from conditions that otherwise would have killed them. Regarding hip replacements, I have one. I can tell you when you have a joint with degenerative arthritis and you can’t walk, there are two options: being bedridden—shortens your life dramatically—or a hip relacement which can give you a full life.

Six weeks after my hip replacement I was back cycling. I continue to that plus gym work, swimming and hiking. These are highly successful surgeries. There is a difference between fixing a mechanical problem—which competent surgeons are good at—and injection billions of healthy people with toxic products.

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Noren O Drisc's avatar

Yes I realise but just need to research the different hip types more. Sounds like your surgery was very successful which is great.

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Ely's avatar

Having been in practice for 50 years, I have seen countless patients with hip replacements. Today it is a very efficient procedure, very precise. Can something go wrong? Sure. But you’re much less likely to die from that than a Covid jab.

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