I believe in a clean environment, always have. That is a different issue. Clean internal and external environment. The obsession about CO2 is unhealthy.
Ha ! "we're on a suicidal path to insignificance". Who and what is judging human relevance or significance ? Humans. There is no cosmic grand being or judge that
might give a whit of the human condition. The examples you give of carbon as essentail to life are superficial to your argument. Carbon is indeed a necessary component of the human-animal body. Protein is made mostly of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. But there are forms of carbon-containing molecules that are deadly e.g., carbon monoxide. Also, consider the acidification of the ocean. At least one quarter of the carbon dioxide from coal, oil and gas burning dissolves in the ocean
https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/ocean-acidification. In any healthy enviornment - human or earthly - balance is key. It doesn't take a white-smocked scientist to recognize climate change. Step outside and observe from day to day, year to year. Are humans the cause ? Not totally, but we contribute. Is climate change more dangerous than nuclear war ? It's not one or the other, it's both. To be "climate savvy" is akin to being "vaccine aware" (in contra-distinction to being anti-vax).
Suicidal path is not from the climate. Storms such as tornadoes, hurricanes/cyclones have not increased since 1900 and deaths due to climate-related events have decreased substantially since then, despite the earth's population increasing substantially.
". . . since 1900 . . . deaths due to climate-related events have decreased substantially since then, despite the earth's population increasing substantially." Interesting. But death is not the only measurement to be appraised. Personally and collectively, health and sustainability are important considerations. Beyond the direct weather events you mention, collateral effects are real : heat waves and droughts affecting agriculture and water supply; changes in the behaviour and life-cycle of plants and animals; forced displacement and migration of human populations; Air pollution (giving rise to asthma, COPD, CVD, etc); The list goes on. There is a plethora of web-articles on the subject, both pro and con. Serendipitously, I came across an interesting study a couple of days ago :
58% of human infectious diseases can be worsened by climate change
I am somewhat surprised, that you as a DC, do not promote the concept - and proposed applications by many - of preventive measures in your assessment of this issue ?
I believe in a clean environment, always have. That is a different issue. Clean internal and external environment. The obsession about CO2 is unhealthy.
Ely I couldn't agree with you more and they really are pushing this carbon issue for their own reasons none of which are good .
Ha ! "we're on a suicidal path to insignificance". Who and what is judging human relevance or significance ? Humans. There is no cosmic grand being or judge that
might give a whit of the human condition. The examples you give of carbon as essentail to life are superficial to your argument. Carbon is indeed a necessary component of the human-animal body. Protein is made mostly of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. But there are forms of carbon-containing molecules that are deadly e.g., carbon monoxide. Also, consider the acidification of the ocean. At least one quarter of the carbon dioxide from coal, oil and gas burning dissolves in the ocean
https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/ocean-acidification. In any healthy enviornment - human or earthly - balance is key. It doesn't take a white-smocked scientist to recognize climate change. Step outside and observe from day to day, year to year. Are humans the cause ? Not totally, but we contribute. Is climate change more dangerous than nuclear war ? It's not one or the other, it's both. To be "climate savvy" is akin to being "vaccine aware" (in contra-distinction to being anti-vax).
Suicidal path is not from the climate. Storms such as tornadoes, hurricanes/cyclones have not increased since 1900 and deaths due to climate-related events have decreased substantially since then, despite the earth's population increasing substantially.
". . . since 1900 . . . deaths due to climate-related events have decreased substantially since then, despite the earth's population increasing substantially." Interesting. But death is not the only measurement to be appraised. Personally and collectively, health and sustainability are important considerations. Beyond the direct weather events you mention, collateral effects are real : heat waves and droughts affecting agriculture and water supply; changes in the behaviour and life-cycle of plants and animals; forced displacement and migration of human populations; Air pollution (giving rise to asthma, COPD, CVD, etc); The list goes on. There is a plethora of web-articles on the subject, both pro and con. Serendipitously, I came across an interesting study a couple of days ago :
58% of human infectious diseases can be worsened by climate change
https://www.preventionweb.net/news/58-human-infectious-diseases-can-be-worsened-climate-change-we-scoured-77000-studies-map
I am somewhat surprised, that you as a DC, do not promote the concept - and proposed applications by many - of preventive measures in your assessment of this issue ?